Topic: Battle mechanics

I think the desert tournament map was made specifically with the idea that it is easier to defend than to attack.

Sure, but the need to micromanage a scout is annoying and "unwidelandish" nevertheless. If a small hut cannot acquire land, it is aware of the presence of an enemy building and should be able to attack (still IMO).

desert torunament has one minor balancing issue

With good players, the issue is not minor. However, that is not the point. If it is intentional that one needs a scout to be able to attack a castle from the small huts, then it should be, imo, possible to "autotrigger" an attack whenever the scout happens to cross an enemy military building. Or, alternatively, the player should be able to make a "blind attack", without knowing what is ahead.

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@ tino: ok, sorry i got a bit snippish, I was wrongly feeling accused of playing unfairly. Still the point that I raised in the third message holds: the kind of change you ssuggested would require rebalancing all the soldiers, because it would make the higher level soldiers less strong. I'm not necessarily against it, but it would require lowering the cost of the higher level powerups.

@ teppo: I agree that it is a weakness of the scouts as they are designed. maybe if it was possible to program that where the scout passes remains visible for one minute, so that one wouldn't have to follow them every moment. I still like the idea that you need to make a scout hut before you can attack a fortress, because it gives better defensive possibilities and in widelands the defender has very few advantages. an addvantage to the defence allows the creation of an equilibrium between the players that i feel is needed to make the game intersting. otherwise, the players meet, attack, and the game ends immediately.

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@ atlantean upgrades: yes, getting fully trained atlantean soldiers is a real pain, while with other tribes it is easy if you have the resources. compensates the fact that they are stronger and cheaper.

Anyway, II found a decent way to get them too: 1) when you make the labirynth, send 4 soldiers in and do not send any golden tabard in it. if there are golden tabards, then the labirynth will give the soldiers the promotions evade 1 and hp 1 and send them out, and you don't want that. 2) now you 4 soldiers will get promoted, in turn they will all get evade 1. then the first one will get evade 2. now you can let the golden tabards in, and they will go to the soldiers with evade 2 as long as there is one of them 3) now you have a few soldiers with evade 2 and hp 1 who will go to the military sites. when you have the dungeon ready with one weapon per kind (recommended to reduce the nnumber of wares it can keep from 4 weapons per kind to 1, will make it faster to fill it), cut the roads to all your military buildings that have strong soldiers, then kick one of your level 3 soldiers out. it will then go to the warehouse 4) now get that soldier into the dungeon, by closing and reopening the dungeon until that one comes out. when it goes in the dungeon, you can remake the roads you cut. that will get you one soldier with attack 4, hp 1 and evade 2, which is almost as good as a fully promoted soldier.

to get a fully promoted one, let the armor smithy go and do nothing special about it. when you find a soldier with all the labirynth promotions, cut the roads, kick it out of the building, and send it to the dungeon.

Yes, much more annoying than with the other tribes, but it can be managed.

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