Topic: Difficulty levels

Well, I dont remember exactly, but I noticed that same crash happens also when lua file is broken in other way - except for syntax errors that are caught when game is launched.

But try this:

  place_building_in_region(player, "empire_colosseum", sf:region(1), {
     wares = {
        empire_bread = 8,
        fish = 4,
        meat = 4,
     },
  })

change region to radius 1 so that it will inevitably fail

Generally I think it is ~ ready for merge, if there is a consensus over this. Of course it still needs some tinkering but I believe if this is merged the chances that somebody will tinker with values will be higher...

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Yes, I dont like that name either. Trading outpost would be fine, but it should be obvious that this is a cheat mode, I believe. What about 'Trading Outpost (cheat)' or something like this?

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I am reading this topic for a while and I haven't got any new infromation, but now... little offtoppic

In a short time I've finished wiki page about Single Player mode (help for options & ui). On that page are described starting conditions: https://wl.widelands.org/wiki/GameHelpSinglePlayer/#properties-of-a-player . You can see that barbarians have less buildings in Fortified Village than the other tribes. Are we going to change that? Why they have less buildings?

And to this topic: I agree that adding new starting condition is a good idea for that and making Trading Outpost will be currently good idea too. But for me adding info about cheating mode is one of priorities. Also the problem is about multiplayer. Are we going to allow players to use Cheat there? If yes, how can we provide info for basic players (who don't know this starting conditions) about it? I know that it is lots of things to discuss, but for me it is very important.

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In Multiplayer, the host can refuse to start the game if the players don't want to use cheat mode and one player as picked it. I think it's important to have it available in case a strong player (e.g. king of nowhere) wants to play against a newbie (e.g. me).

The information about the fortified village that you put in the wiki is not complete - this is due to a bug that we fixed today.

The actual buildings are:

• Barbarians:

  1. Battle Arena
  2. Training Camp
  3. Helmsmithy
  4. Metal Workshop
  5. Ax Workshop - I think that should be a War Mill instead
  6. Wood Hardener
  7. Lime Kiln

• Empire:

  1. Colosseum
  2. Training Camp
  3. Armorsmithy
  4. Toolsmithy
  5. Weaponsmithy
  6. Sawmill
  7. Stonemason's House

• Atlanteans:

  1. Labyrinth
  2. Dungeon
  3. Armorsmithy
  4. Toolsmithy
  5. Weaponsmithy
  6. Sawmill

Thanks for doing the work on the Wiki - I will fix these entries now

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I still would like to de-empasize the military aspect here, so I left the tower in, but removed the trainingsites etc. We now have:

• Initial gold boost
• Some low-level pre-trained soldiers
• A toolsmithy
• A hunter
• A tower

The AI still takes off a lot better now than it used to with this. Of course, it might still need some balancing. I forgot about adding a wood hardener / sawmill - I will still do that, because the Barbarians get more out of the hunter than the other tribes if they build a gamekeeper. So, that should even things out a bit.

GunChleoc wrote:

• Headquarters: Start the game with your headquarters only
• Fortified Village: Start the game with a fortified military installation
• Trading Outpost: Never run out of important wares for long

Are we happy with these tooltips?

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