Topic: Barbarian Trainingscamp Remodel

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chuckw Topic Opener Joined: 2010-03-15, 15:23 Posts: 945 One Elder of Players Location: New York - USA	Posted at: 2011-09-15, 17:56 I mentioned that I'd have to come up with some 3D models of the various axes and armour if I wished to include them with the trainingscamp. Here are the axes I've designed. (Remember you will never see them this large again.) In the order of advancement through training: Well, that point has to be sharp even if the blade isn't. I hope by giving them unique designs they will be easier to identify on the road. And not to leave out the "other" axe in the game :), Both it and the soldier's "Axe" are taken directly from the models of the lumberjack and soldier. (Want to keep it authentic, you know.) Do you think it's time to upgrade the wares images of these weapons? Comments? I see little people. Top Quote

Astuur Joined: 2009-02-28, 09:08 Posts: 733 One Elder of Players Location: Frankfurt / Germany	Posted at: 2011-09-15, 18:26 Oops... so it's Tetrahedron, okay.... sorry I did not look that up - I thought it might be "international" So, imagine the axes all with their sharp edges hewn vertically into the beams. I guess you know what I mean. I like your axe- models a lot. Too bad you won't see them so clearly in the end. The bronze axe is more like a copper axe but the rest is excellent. If you still have power left, you might work a bit on the shafts; If my life depended on an axe, I would not touch anything with a shaft as flimsy as this Depending on what you will see after downsizing, you might want shafts thick at the front end, (twice the diameter!) tapered and with a knob at the end. Broadaxe, battle axe and warrior's axe are probably bimanual, so their handles will be a bit longer than the rest. Just my ideas as usual Being no programmer, I apologize for all my suggestions that imply undue workload and for other misjudgements due to lack of expertise or relevant skills. I am on Win32, have no means to compile, and rely on prefabricated distributions (Thanks to Tino). Top Quote

chuckw Topic Opener Joined: 2010-03-15, 15:23 Posts: 945 One Elder of Players Location: New York - USA	Posted at: 2011-09-15, 20:21 Astuur wrote: Oops... so it's Tetrahedron, okay.... sorry I did not look that up - I thought it might be "international" I would like to think solid geometry is international, too. So, imagine the axes all with their sharp edges hewn vertically into the beams. I guess you know what I mean. Yep! I like your axe- models a lot. Too bad you won't see them so clearly in the end. The bronze axe is more like a copper axe but the rest is excellent. Yes, I think I'll give it a little more tin alloy. If you still have power left, you might work a bit on the shafts; If my life depended on an axe, I would not touch anything with a shaft as flimsy as this Depending on what you will see after downsizing, you might want shafts thick at the front end, (twice the diameter!) tapered and with a knob at the end. Broadaxe, battle axe and warrior's axe are probably bimanual, so their handles will be a bit longer than the rest. Just my ideas as usual Good ideas... as usual. I borrowed the helmet from the soldier model, (He wasn't using it at the time.), and pushed and pulled the mesh around until I came up with these: I turned off mirroring for the "gold" material for these shots. Think I am in the right ball park? I see little people. Top Quote

chuckw Topic Opener Joined: 2010-03-15, 15:23 Posts: 945 One Elder of Players Location: New York - USA	Posted at: 2011-09-15, 22:37 Axes Rehandled: I see little people. Top Quote

chuckw Topic Opener Joined: 2010-03-15, 15:23 Posts: 945 One Elder of Players Location: New York - USA	Posted at: 2011-09-15, 23:19 Helms: I see little people. Top Quote

chuckw Topic Opener Joined: 2010-03-15, 15:23 Posts: 945 One Elder of Players Location: New York - USA	Posted at: 2011-09-16, 04:38 Latest refinements: I'll post game-ready files soon so you can test these as wares in the game if you wish. (Notice how these samples are getting smaller? I warned you.) I see little people. Top Quote

Astuur Joined: 2009-02-28, 09:08 Posts: 733 One Elder of Players Location: Frankfurt / Germany	Posted at: 2011-09-16, 13:51 Small, these axes, but still very nice! Helmets.... how about a (none/small/large in White/Player color)) plume to even better recognize the difference? Otherwise, much better than the existing models, they looked to mystical and indigenous for my taste. Looking very much forward to try them out. Being no programmer, I apologize for all my suggestions that imply undue workload and for other misjudgements due to lack of expertise or relevant skills. I am on Win32, have no means to compile, and rely on prefabricated distributions (Thanks to Tino). Top Quote

chuckw Topic Opener Joined: 2010-03-15, 15:23 Posts: 945 One Elder of Players Location: New York - USA	Posted at: 2011-09-16, 14:19 Astuur wrote: Small, these axes, but still very nice! Well, so are the soldiers. Helmets.... how about a (none/small/large in White/Player color)) plume to even better recognize the difference? I don't know about plumes on Norsemen (assuming these barbarians are northern tribesmen, of course). I could try a little fur on the mask around the rim of the helmet a la Mongols and make the wings on the warhelmet PlayerColor. I'll let you all judge the effect. I see little people. Top Quote

chuckw Topic Opener Joined: 2010-03-15, 15:23 Posts: 945 One Elder of Players Location: New York - USA	Posted at: 2011-09-16, 22:18 If you wish to take the new axes and (plume-less) helmets for a test drive in the game, I've pushed them to https://code.launchpad.net/~chuckw20/widelands/Barbarian_Axes_and_Helms Comments welcome. I see little people. Top Quote

Astuur Joined: 2009-02-28, 09:08 Posts: 733 One Elder of Players Location: Frankfurt / Germany	Posted at: 2011-09-17, 06:35 Hmm.. you're right about the plumes.... this isn't your normannic 12th century knight.... But I don't know about fur either .... Stag's antlers for the warhelmet? The wings in player color sounds also very good... Edited: 2011-09-17, 06:52 Being no programmer, I apologize for all my suggestions that imply undue workload and for other misjudgements due to lack of expertise or relevant skills. I am on Win32, have no means to compile, and rely on prefabricated distributions (Thanks to Tino). Top Quote

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