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Posted at: 2017-08-29, 01:26

einstein13 wrote:

What about changing the rules to "standard championship" ones?

With 10 people, it would require rounds for everyone to play with everyone else, and that would make the tournament too long.


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Posted at: 2017-08-29, 18:29

I wouldd like to join, but dont know if I can spare the time, lets try and have fun. I ll play with ever rules.

(For the nile we should expect 3 days face-smile.png just played like 18h against AIs only ....


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Posted at: 2017-08-29, 23:30

And we have the minimumm number of players required!

On one hand, yay! On the other, my schedule for autumn is getting more and more busy


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Posted at: 2017-08-30, 00:32

Yeaaahhhhh face-grin.png


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Posted at: 2017-08-30, 01:21

Maybe you misunderstood me, king. I meant standard widelands tournament where you play till 2 deaths. http://www.widelands.org/~hanna/wl/bracket.pdf


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Posted at: 2017-08-30, 03:41

einstein13 wrote:

Maybe you misunderstood me, king. I meant standard widelands tournament where you play till 2 deaths. http://www.widelands.org/~hanna/wl/bracket.pdf

Oh, I see, that's elimination tournament. No, I don't like it. half the people stop playing after the first round (or the second, if we use the way or bringing them back). There is no clear way of dealing with odd numbers. And failing a single game will ruin your whole tournament. The elimination system has only two advantages: 1) it is more spectacular, there is more tension associated with every encounter because someone will be eliminated. This may be good for most of the public, but I am not most of the public, I don't care for spectacular and I hate when something is needlessly and artificially spectacularized. And 2) There is a clear winner who bested the second in a direct game, rather than someone who won for half a bucholz point or some of the even finer tie-breaks. However, I already address this issue with the second phase of the tournament, where everyone tied up for first place goes against each other.

The swiss tournament is so much better, I would never consider hosting an elimination tournament.


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Posted at: 2017-08-30, 19:12

Good news that we have enough players now face-smile.png

I also enjoy the Swiss system more, because it allows players like me who aren't that skilled to play more rounds.

I expect to be busy all of September, so I expect to have to forfeit my first round too, which would make me unable to play elimination in this one.


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Posted at: 2017-08-30, 20:24

There is another system, where players can play more rounds. I don't know how it is called. How it works? Divide players in some groups and in every group you expect players play one by one. After all games you pick 2 best players in every group and after that you play elimination tournament to get first one. As I remember, this system is used in football championship. This is solution to make both many games & not many players at once.

But now we don't have to find solution - we will play swiss system.

Edited: 2017-08-30, 20:24

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Posted at: 2017-08-30, 22:36

Damn... now i have to play against humans face-grin.png


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Posted at: 2017-08-31, 00:15

Within 24 hours, I will post the first round pairings

einstein13 wrote:

There is another system, where players can play more rounds. I don't know how it is called. How it works? Divide players in some groups and in every group you expect players play one by one. After all games you pick 2 best players in every group and after that you play elimination tournament to get first one. As I remember, this system is used in football championship. This is solution to make both many games & not many players at once.

But now we don't have to find solution - we will play swiss system.

this is just a tournament in two phases: first round robin, and second elimination. Actuallly, considering there are qualifications too, you can consider the football championship as divided in three phases: round robin, round robin and elimnination.And yes, round robin + elimination is also a good way to make tournaments. I prefer to use swiss system because I'm accustomed to it with chess. If you want to play with a different system, you can organize a tournament yourself face-tongue.png

Edited: 2017-08-31, 00:16

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