Topic: Barbarians fully trained soldiers
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egg Topic Opener
Joined: 2009-06-22, 15:45
Posts: 37  Pry about Widelands |
Posted at: 2016-10-03, 11:59
I've been playing Widelands for years, but find it difficult to get a soldier fully trained in the training camp. By stopping the camp, I can wait until it is fully stocked (axes, food, helmets, etc.), but on restarting, the soldiers leave before training is complete. An allied problem is that sharp axes are needed in the training camp, but if the axe factory is running, the sharp axes are used to increase the number of untrained soldiers, taking away resources. What have I missed? 
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GunChleoc
Joined: 2013-10-07, 14:56
Posts: 3324  One Elder of Players Location: RenderedRect |
Posted at: 2016-10-03, 16:03
The best way to control is to restrict the number of soldiers in the training sites and also the wares queue, and starting and stopping.... it takes quite a bit of micromanagement. It will get easier in Build 20 where we will have a Barracks to train soldiers, so you can control more easily how many wares are used for new soldiers. Edited: 2016-10-03, 16:16
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king_of_nowhere
Joined: 2014-09-15, 17:35
Posts: 1668 One Elder of Players |
Posted at: 2016-10-03, 18:08
stopping the camp works perfectly as long as you only have 1 soldier in it. that way, the camp can only promote that one soldier fully. I even wrote a guide on how to do it, but I have no idea where to find it. if you have many soldiers inside, it will start with the lower promotions for everyone, which is bad.
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kaputtnik
Joined: 2013-02-18, 19:48
Posts: 2440 OS: Archlinux Version: current master One Elder of Players Location: Germany |
Posted at: 2016-10-03, 19:44
I've just searched for 'promoted soldier' and found this post Fight simulator for Widelands:
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GunChleoc
Joined: 2013-10-07, 14:56
Posts: 3324 One Elder of Players Location: RenderedRect |
Posted at: 2016-10-03, 19:57
I have just had an idea: reversing the order of the production programs in the trainingsites configuration should help. Busy indexing nil values
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einstein13
Joined: 2013-07-28, 23:01
Posts: 1118 One Elder of Players Location: Poland |
Posted at: 2016-10-03, 22:34
I am not sure if it will help, but one of the chapters here is yours work too einstein13
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egg Topic Opener
Joined: 2009-06-22, 15:45
Posts: 37 Pry about Widelands |
Posted at: 2016-10-04, 09:41
I should have explained that stopping the camp was just a test to see how it would work if there were no shortages. Restricting the number of soldiers in the camp seems to work: thanks for that tip. It occurs to me that if:- the War Mill could not make sharp axes; the training camp didn't need sharp axes; then soldier population could be controlled by stopping and starting the axe factory. The training camp shouldn't need sharp axes anyway, as every soldier has one already.
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king_of_nowhere
Joined: 2014-09-15, 17:35
Posts: 1668 One Elder of Players |
Posted at: 2016-10-04, 18:07
to stop new soldiers from being made, you should stop the battle arena. that's what keeps asking for new soldiers over and over.
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teppo
Joined: 2012-01-30, 08:42
Posts: 423  Tribe Member |
Posted at: 2016-11-06, 11:29
Would it be better, if the training sites would discard soldiers less eagerly in case of resource shortage? Would it be better, if it was possible to make the trainingscamp/dungeon accept only soldiers that have already been trained in (battle)arena/labyrinth, or would that make the game too straightforward?
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king_of_nowhere
Joined: 2014-09-15, 17:35
Posts: 1668 One Elder of Players |
Posted at: 2016-11-06, 12:43
it already does. it is much easier to get a fully promoted soldier than it was in build 18.
I pproposed that as a micromanaging system to code in the AI to help it. So yeah, it would be more efficient, but I fear that it would really make the game too strighforward.
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